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#181 Wildman

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    Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:43 PM

    Hello everyone,
    Even though I passed this project on to Caradog (who is doing a great job btw) I still like to help make things better and help if I can. With that said, I know someone has asked about where Icons Type 1 is being that XI View uses Type 2. I found the Type 1 dats and I know some people would like to use Type 1 in Xi View because it would use the old default Menu icons that you see in your spell,ja,ws menu list.

    I am still unable to find the default menu icons dat which would probably be an easier fix, but being I found the locations of Type 1 Icons maybe this could be a work around for some of you guys. This does come with issues. Main one being These Type 1 icons are in a different format (thank SE for not making it a quick copy and paste of XI Views icons)
    Currently XI View's Icons are in this format.
    32bit 32x32

    Type 1 Icons
    32bit 16x16

    If I go ahead and replace the dat with XI View's Icons you get a blown up version of the icons, which look like this.
    http://postimg.org/image/8o7wnc5hn/

    Not really a bad think, some may like it i dunno but the icons overlap like you see. Personally I like XI View's Icons with the old default menu icons, and I'll keep looking to try and find those. Maybe someone can make a new version of FFXI Icon changer to read these dats or maybe it's a simple fix, because when you open them up in the lastest version of Icon changer each Icon shows as double and they are very small. It's weird.

    Anyways, here's the locations of the dats and you all can have a go at it :)

    JP- ROM/287/80.DAT
    NA- ROM/287/81.DAT
    German- ROM/287/82.DAT
    French- ROM/287/83.DAT
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    #182 banggugyangu

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      Posted 20 March 2014 - 03:41 AM

      Hello everyone,
      Even though I passed this project on to Caradog (who is doing a great job btw) I still like to help make things better and help if I can. With that said, I know someone has asked about where Icons Type 1 is being that XI View uses Type 2. I found the Type 1 dats and I know some people would like to use Type 1 in Xi View because it would use the old default Menu icons that you see in your spell,ja,ws menu list.

      I am still unable to find the default menu icons dat which would probably be an easier fix, but being I found the locations of Type 1 Icons maybe this could be a work around for some of you guys. This does come with issues. Main one being These Type 1 icons are in a different format (thank SE for not making it a quick copy and paste of XI Views icons)
      Currently XI View's Icons are in this format.
      32bit 32x32

      Type 1 Icons
      32bit 16x16

      If I go ahead and replace the dat with XI View's Icons you get a blown up version of the icons, which look like this.
      http://postimg.org/image/8o7wnc5hn/

      Not really a bad think, some may like it i dunno but the icons overlap like you see. Personally I like XI View's Icons with the old default menu icons, and I'll keep looking to try and find those. Maybe someone can make a new version of FFXI Icon changer to read these dats or maybe it's a simple fix, because when you open them up in the lastest version of Icon changer each Icon shows as double and they are very small. It's weird.

      Anyways, here's the locations of the dats and you all can have a go at it :)

      JP- ROM/287/80.DAT
      NA- ROM/287/81.DAT
      German- ROM/287/82.DAT
      French- ROM/287/83.DAT

       

      I actually like the overlap of larger icons, myself.  Any way we could get the DATs for those icons to use if we wanted?  This was something that had been bothering me lately as I kept applying the XIView updates and not getting the icons.



      #183 Caradog

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        Posted 20 March 2014 - 08:15 AM

        @Wildman: Thats interesting info, thanks, Doesn't Xi View still include the old 16x16 version of iconchanger? I thought it did, will have to experiment with that...

         

        @banggugyangu: I'm not entirely sure what you mean by apply xi view and not getting the icons?

         

        #184 banggugyangu

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          Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:26 AM

          In the entire XIView compressed file, there's only one instance of ROM/287/81.DAT which is in the "00 - Original Backup 17-3-13" folder.  It's been this way for several versions at least for me.



          #185 Caradog

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            Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:40 PM

            @banggugyangu: thats because those files refer to the old 16 bit icons associated with the unused config setting, for the current version of xi view your config icon type should be set to 2.



            #186 banggugyangu

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              Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:50 PM

              You have no idea how crazy that was driving me.... I suppose it was set back to 1 when my USER folder corrupted and I restored to a semi-old backup a while ago.... lolz disregard my last couple posts.



              #187 Caradog

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                Posted 20 March 2014 - 01:00 PM

                Okies, I'm glad thats fixed for you!

                 

                Still this is interesting info, could be used to fulfill a couple people's requests maybe



                #188 banggugyangu

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                  Posted 20 March 2014 - 01:52 PM

                  like I said,  I actually am a fan of the overlapping, personally, though I would prefer maybe a black outline that's 1-2 pixels wide to cause identical icons to distinguish themselves (march songs in that picture)



                  #189 Wildman

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                    Posted 20 March 2014 - 09:04 PM

                    I do have an old version 16x16 of Icon Changer and it still doesn't work correctly for type 1 icons. By default on a fresh install, SE defaults to Type 1 icons. That's why everyone will have to change it to Type 2 to use XI Views icons. I think initially SE made type 1 and type 2 icon sets for the UI revamp and has yet to take place. That's my thoughts on it anyway. But, anyone that would mess around with these type 1 icons in Icon changer you see see what I mean when it opens up the dat, it show 2 icons for each icon displayed. Like I said , it's weird. If you want to display these Type 1 icon from XI View with them over lapping like that, do this.

                    For NA go into your XI View download, Normal Screen or Widescreen, it doesn't matter.

                    Rom / 119/ 57.DAT copy and paste that dat to your desktop and rename it to 81.DAT.

                    Then go to FFXI game directory, ROM/ 287 and replace the 81.DAT with the new one you just renamed.

                    Maybe in the future Caradog will just add this as an option if you want these enlarged Icons or until we find the correct fix.

                    As for adding a 1-2 pixel black outline, that would be very time consuming as you would need to manually do that to each icon, and there is over 500 icons.

                    #190 Mysticales

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                      Posted 21 March 2014 - 05:01 AM

                      Still say we need to get this formatted into an addon option somehow, this way it can auto update people easier. Also nice to see some good ol post traffic on this thread. =)


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                      #191 Wildman

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                        Posted 21 March 2014 - 09:06 PM

                        If dat swapping is allowed through the windower update client thing, I'd think the only simple option would be having it update Status Icons. That's such an easy fix and 1 dat for each region. UI on the other hand, you have Widescreen and Standard screen, and if people are not aware the only difference is the linkshell/bazaar icons next to your name is changed. Even having the widescreen version on a standard 4:3 monitor looks fine imo, so not to sure how many people actually use Standard still. Maybe drop Standard and have Widscreen and Status Icons, making it 2 dats for every region. Still don't know if the windower client can overwrite dats through the update system. Something to look into though.

                        #192 banggugyangu

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                          Posted 22 March 2014 - 05:51 AM

                          I think it would be a fair assumption that widescreen is used by @ least 95% of all players at this point.  I don't think it would be an unreasonable practice to provide the widescreen option through the launcher if possible and append a disclaimer that if someone uses a 4:3 display, there is an overlay that would be necessary.  Of course,  It could also be made to detect the resolution being used (which would represent the aspect ratio) and simply apply the proper DATs accordingly.



                          #193 Shaorin

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                            Posted 23 March 2014 - 02:18 AM

                            I'm one of the one that use the 4:3. Since I play in the 16:10 aspect ratio I like view of the icons better in 4:3. the WS ones look squished to me. I don't really see there being that much of an issue to provide the WS and 4:3 both in the launcher. you can advertise those out as 2 different menu options and maintain both files sites on the server. But developers would still need to someone responsible to maintain those packages, code source, and update the files on the server. Not even sure if they have the space to host the files either.



                            #194 squaretex

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                              Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:13 PM

                              First of all, thanks to the Windower team for such a useful interface, and thanks to projects like XI View here for great facelift work. I'm a new player of Final Fantasy XI, and so these projects are making a great time even more enjoyable.

                               

                              However, while I do like the default changes XI View comes with...I cannot make further customization.

                               

                              I've been trying to apply one of the Ubuntu fonts and the FF7 pointer to ROM\119\51.dat. But even when ChangeTex says the alterations are successful, they're not showing up when I start the game. What REALLY makes it weird is that ChangeTex is showing 51.dat with a "lock" icon. But ONLY ChangeTex is doing that. Window's own file manager is not showing 51 to be locked in read-only, or restricted in any way.

                               

                              After unsuccessful attempts, I had POL refresh all the FFXI data and re-applied XI View. Sadly, when I tried to make my custom choices again, it still claimed "success" without changing anything. And the lock is still there.

                               

                              Anyone else come across this?

                               

                              As I said, the default white pointer and Trebuchet font are still great improvements. I'm just looking to make the interface a little more "me". <:)

                               

                              Thanks!



                              #195 Caradog

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                                Posted 23 March 2014 - 09:45 PM

                                Random question but have you tried altering the file while its in another location? By default the Programs folder is Read-only and programs like notepad or changetex will have trouble saving there



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                                  Posted 23 March 2014 - 10:18 PM

                                  That...did the trick all right. I made a copy of 51 (post-XI View) to the desktop, did the ChangeTex alterations, flew it back to the original folder...presto!

                                   

                                  Thanks! :)



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                                  Posted 25 March 2014 - 08:52 PM

                                  I'm just dropping by to say hello.  Looks like you've guys have been busy. 

                                  Happy Gaming!!!



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                                  Posted 25 March 2014 - 08:53 PM

                                  LOL @ my newbie status.  Darn resets.



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                                    Posted 05 April 2014 - 03:26 AM

                                    Well well well Deathbringer finally comes back lol. You should just add stuff to your sig. But yes.. i was annoyed too at lost status and "registered date" stuff. Heh. Think we lost alot of people who were tracking via email in the switch.


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                                      Posted 08 April 2014 - 06:12 PM

                                      WB Deathbringer!!!!

                                      Yes, Caradogg has been very busy,and I can say he's been an awesome heir to your fantastic legacy ;)

                                       

                                      Btw since I'm here, any problem reported after yesterday's and today's patches?






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