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Best Answer Iryoku , 04 June 2015 - 06:24 PM

By the way, Windower does a lot of things weird. We do a number of things that the Win32 API was not explicitly designed to support, but that happen to work due to a number of coincidences and assumptions that don't necessarily hold under Wine. Though arguably this is a failing of Wine, since its goal is to be a complete implementation of the Windows environment; it's difficult to find fault in Wine when we're intentionally violating the contracts of the APIs it is implementing.

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    #1 OmegaPhil

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      Posted 03 June 2015 - 09:21 PM

      I've done a quick search and can't find older versions of windower hosted - I'm trying to run the latest v4 on WINE, which segfaults, unlikely to be windower's fault or responsibility - I know that older versions have worked, but I just need to get at them (last v3 perhaps?).

       

      Does anyone know where they're hosted?

       

      Thanks



      #2 sdahlka

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        Posted 04 June 2015 - 03:42 AM

        I've done a quick search and can't find older versions of windower hosted - I'm trying to run the latest v4 on WINE, which segfaults, unlikely to be windower's fault or responsibility - I know that older versions have worked, but I just need to get at them (last v3 perhaps?).

         

        Does anyone know where they're hosted?

         

        Thanks

        windower 3 wont work with the current ffxi version(only the last update that windower 3 was updated for which was well over a year ago)



        #3 Iryoku

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          Posted 04 June 2015 - 11:25 AM

          We no longer host any copies of the version 3.x binaries. Development on the Windower 3.x branch was officially discontinued on March 10th, 2013. The last release was Windower 3.432 released March 7th. It continued to work until March 27th, 2013, when the release of Seekers of Adoulin broke one of the function hooks, rendering it inoperable. So, even if you find a copy of it somewhere (there are still a few versions of it floating around the internet), it will immediately crash on load.

           

          As far as I'm aware, no version of Wine has ever supported Windower 3 or 4, anyway. Both versions rely on functionality that Wine currently doesn't provide. Wine support is something I would like to have for Windower 5, but it is a low priority goal.



          #4 OmegaPhil

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            Posted 04 June 2015 - 12:22 PM

            Thanks both for your posts. Right, so getting at an older version is a folly. Presumably windower isn't doing anything weird, so it shouldn't really be its responsiblity to be compatible with WINE, more like WINE is failing to implement something properly I guess. For reference, what version of .NET does windower target?

             

            I guess this'll be the usual 'retest on new WINE versions' thing again until it magically matures enough to support it.



            #5 Iryoku

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              Posted 04 June 2015 - 05:49 PM

              The launcher requires .Net Framework 4, and specifically it requires WPF, which Mono doesn't support.



              #6 OmegaPhil

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                Posted 04 June 2015 - 06:04 PM

                Cheers, I do have .NET 4 installed via winetricks at least (thats what it tells me), so it shouldn't be using mono.



                #7 Iryoku

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                  Posted 04 June 2015 - 06:24 PM   Best Answer

                  By the way, Windower does a lot of things weird. We do a number of things that the Win32 API was not explicitly designed to support, but that happen to work due to a number of coincidences and assumptions that don't necessarily hold under Wine. Though arguably this is a failing of Wine, since its goal is to be a complete implementation of the Windows environment; it's difficult to find fault in Wine when we're intentionally violating the contracts of the APIs it is implementing.



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                    Posted 04 June 2015 - 06:33 PM

                    Ah... I see... well, damn.






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