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Posted 17 October 2005 - 01:51 AM

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I wrote this to help those that can actually speak Japanese but have little knowledge in the means of making their computer let them type it in FFXI. If you're here trying to find out how to get the emoticons to show up, you'll have to find someone else to teach you, or learn to read hiragana and katakana before asking me.

If you're already able to type Japanese on your computer, then obviously you already have the IME installed, so this first section is not for you. Go down to II. Configuring the IME

I'm at work at the moment, so I can't take any screencaps for a step-by-step visual process. However, I'll try and detail as much as I can so you can follow along.

I. Installing the IME
1. Control Panel >> Regional and Language Options >> Languages Tab
Install files for East Asian languages must be checked. If not, check it at this time. You WILL require your Windows XP CDs in order to install this option. Tough luck if you don't have them, you can't download these files for XP.

Pre-XP (ie. Win98) users CAN download them because it was never included with the windows installation CDs. Do a search on Microsoft's site, and make sure you don't mistake the ones designed for MS Office.

Once you're done installing and rebooting, come back to this window.

2. Regional and Language Options >> Advanced Tab
Language for non-Unicode programs
You have two options for this, both with their own quirks:
a) Japanese, or
B) English (using AppLocale on Windower)

a. Japanese
Setting it to Japanese will cause minor quirks to appear in many of your windows programs (the most prominent being that all your backslashes will appear as Yen symbols), however it will let Windower run as intended. A future update to Windower or the IME plugin should allow you (according to replies from Cliff in other threads) to set this back to English and Windower will take care of the rest.

b. English using AppLocale
If you don't want to set your system's locale to Japanese, you also have the option of using a program provided by Microsoft known as AppLocale.
AppLocale basically does what the above option does, except it only does it to the one program you want to run in the Japanese locale, instead of your entire system.

When you run AppLocale by itself, it'll ask you what program to run, and at the end if you want to create a shortcut for it. Of course, creating a shortcut saves you the trouble of constantly going through this wizard in order to run the Launcher. Where does it drop it? In Start >> Programs >> AppLocale. From there you can drag/drop/cut/copy/paste it to wherever you like; Quick Launch, Desktop, another directory in your Start Menu...

There is one problem with using AppLocale right now though. The FFXI window will be in a mode called "Always on Top" and as stated it will always be on top of other windows. It also removes the titlebar and borders from the window so you can't move or resize it. For this reason most of you will want to use option (a), unless you're a power user and run dualies (like myself).

3. Regional and Language Options >> Languages Tab >> Details button
This brings up the Text Services and Input Languages window. The Default input language can be whatever you want, but most English users will want to leave it on English. Basically it changes the default language that the Language Bar will start in for all programs.

In the area below that, labelled Installed services, you need to have two, possibly three, entries to use the Japanese IME. If you haven't Installed files for East Asian languages from 1. then you can't install the services required.

JP Japanese > Keyboard >
- Microsoft IME Standard 2002 ver 8.1 (or variation thereof)
- Microsoft Natural Standard 2002 ver 8.1 (or variation thereof)
- Japanese (optional)

If these do not appear in the list yet, Add them. You may have to restart. Once you've done that, then you have everything you need to start using the IME.

Note: In the Advanced Tab of this window, ensure the checkbox under Compatibility Configuration is not checked. This will prevent the selection menu from appearing, as well as cause discrepencies in using pre-defined key combonations.

II. Configuring the IME
There are two ways to bring up the Text Services and Input Language window:
i. Regional and Language Options >> Languages Tab >> Details button
ii. From the Language Bar, click on the tiny little down arrow button >> Settings

1. Changing the Language without using the mouse
Many users use the mouse to click on the language bar to change the modes it's in. You can configure the Language Bar with shortcuts so you don't have to do this.

Assuming the IME is installed, click on Key Settings from the Text Services and Input Language window.
Depending on how many languages you already have installed, more than two to four options may appear here. We are only interested in two in particular - that is to switch the language to Japanese, and switch to English - however users that can speak/read/write more than one language may want to change more than this option in a similar manner.

The observant person may notice that an option may appear with a frequently mentioned key sequence of "ALT+SHIFT". Pressing this key sequence will cause the Language Bar to cycle through the installed languages (if you have just English and Japanese, it'll switch between the two whenever you press it). If this is not the case, it may be why some suggestions appearing in the forum are not working for you. We'll remedy this immediately:

Select Switch to Japanese and click the Change Key Sequence button. Now here, you're free to change the key sequence to whatever you like, just as long as you can remember it in the future. Do the same for switching to English, as you will occassionally need to do so when your input mode gets stuck. Personally, mine is set to CTRL+SHIFT+1 (with the option to switch back to English as CTRL+SHIFT+0; multilingual users may want to arrange their languages to other numbers, or whatever). Now whenever you press CTRL+SHIFT+1 (or whatever you set yours to) the IME will change to JP.

You're pretty much done with this window now, and are ready to start using the IME.

III. Using the IME AKA: "The Reason You're Really Here" or "Quirks of the IME"
First of all, just sticking the IME.dll file in Windower's plugin directory doesn't make it load the plugin automatically. Like any other plugin, you have to tell Windower to load it... So make sure the following line is in your <Windower>/scripts/init.txt file:
load ime

or, alternatively, you can type /console load ime every time you start FFXI with the Windower. I guess hoping everyone's a rocket scientist was asking for a bit much.

The IME is quite an amazing tool, and it takes a lot of patience, practice and knowledge to be able to use it effectively. There are also a lot of shortcuts available that make changing modes easier (or saving you the trouble of doing so), and there are just as many odd quirks that cause the IME to behave in inexplicable ways.

When you first switch the language to JP (using whatever key sequence you set up above), the Input Mode default to "direct input". This means that the IME will not do any transliteration for you as you type (FFXI will show the mode as "off" in it's first box to the right of the input line when this is the case).

Press ALT+~ (tilde) to turn the IME on. You may have to hold it for a moment, since FFXI misses modifier keys at times, especially on slower computers. If this does not work after several attempts, you have failed to turn off Extend support of advanced text services to all programs. Or you're just weird or something. Having this option enabled will also prevent the candidate menu from appearing when you press the spacebar. Ctrl+~ should work for you instead, for the time being. Again, no candidate window until you change that setting.

In FFXI's language bar, the "off" should turn to an "on", and the "A" beside it should turn into the hiragana equivalent. You are now in hiragana mode, and there are ways of changing to katakana, and full- and half-width alphanumeric modes. The second box beside the "Off/On" in FFXI's language bar will change to reflect the mode you're in. The other modes you don't want to sit in because it's quite frankly annoying. There's another way to change your input into these formats, and it's much easier than changing your mode.

Since I rarely change my input mode (aside from turning the IME on/off using ALT+~), I don't know the exact key combonations for each one. But using the CAPS LOCK key in conjunction with ALT, SHIFT or CTRL will change your mode. IIRC, ALT+CAPS LOCK will change the mode to hiragana. This much is good to know when you find all your input defaulting to katakana.

When you're typing your sentences in Japanese, it's generally much easier to do it a little bit at a time. A word followed by a particle, or a word comprised of compound-kanji. Type this, hit space to find the correct candidate, then press enter to select it. Move on. This prevents unexpected transliterations to appear, and it's generally time consuming to move back through your input to correct it. The annoyed user will press Escape far too many times, resulting in only more annoyance after losing all the green text, or the entire input bar.

Your new input typically appears as green. Sometimes the rest of it will appear in yellow depending on how much you type in. When you hit spacebar, the IME will attempt to locate the parts of the sentence and transliterate them best it can. Selection is shown by green, while the rest of your input is yellow. Sometimes the IME selects the groups of your entry wrong, having taken too much or too little of the reading. Holding shift and pressing left or right will detract from or extend the current selection, at the same time turning it back to hiragana until you press space to attempt another transliteration. Don't press space if you don't want it to try turning it into kanji. If you've found the right candidate and there's more you need to correct, press left or right to move to the next/previous group. Otherwise press enter and it'll change your entry to white, signifying that you're done with the transliteration.

Yes, you need to press enter twice if you just want to type English. Get used to it, you can't change this behavior.

If you need a part of your text to appear in katakana, type it in first, then press the F7 key. Voila, you have katakana.

Many of the keys from F5 to F12 will change your current input to a different mode. In FFXI, many of these won't seem to have an effect, but that's because FFXI doesn't accept half-width input. I don't remember what each one does off-hand, so playing with them is your best bet to learning what each of them do. (I know that somewhere along F10 to F12 will change your current input to straight roma-ji). Beware of F1 to F4 if you still have Extend support of advanced text services to all programs enabled. You can possibly freeze and/or crash FFXI since the Windows IME commanderes FFXI when the IME Tools open.

Added: There tends to be only one shift key that works when typing kana in FFXI, which is usually the left one. If one doesn't work, try the other. This only happens when the IME is turned on. Both keys work as normal when you're not typing kana. After you run into this a few times it becomes almost second nature to keep using it. This has something to do with Japanese keyboards only have one shift key, or so I hear.

There are multiple ways of typing in English without having to turn the IME off entirely. As mentioned above, somewhere between F10 and F12 will change your input to roma-ji. Therefore, you can type your entire sentence in hiragana mode and hit the appropriate F-key. Pressing it multiple times changes the case of the letters.

Secondly, and a bit of a quirk at times, either pressing the Shift key once (can't remember which), or Shift and another letter ("I" for example, for those that have good habits in their written English), will change the mode to Alphanumeric. The shift method though, I believe, defaults to full-width which is the odd-looking wide characters. You'll probably end up pressing the F-key at the end anyways or turning off the IME. Just know that this quirk exists. If this happens and you didn't want it to, hit escape once to clear the green text and start typing again.

There are cases where you'll get stuck in certain modes. If this happens, and you've tried to change the mode back to hiragana using the above methods, AND pressing ALT+~ multiple times to turn the IME on and off doesn't work, then this is where you should have set up a key sequence that turns Windows' Language bar back to English. (CTRL+SHIFT+0 in my case) Doing that, then turning it back to Japanese should clear up any such problems. If not, beat your fist into it's fontface (read: you're SOL until you restart FFXI).

FFXI remembers what mode you left off in. By pressing CTRL+L (linkshell), CTRL+R (reply), or CTRL+P (party), FFXI will recall and have you continue typing in that mode. This behavior is programmed into the IME, so you have to deal with it. However, if you type /s, /sh, /l, or /p first, the mode defaults to Direct Input. Actually, ANYTHING you start with a / will keep the IME off until you turn it back on or press enter. It does this because even the Japanese have to type commands as their English equivalents.

						
						
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Posted 17 October 2005 - 08:18 PM

I've used the japanese IME for quite some time and I never knew the F7 thing to change to katakana :shock: Thanks for taking the time to write a guide, it's a good one.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 08:29 AM

Skye said:

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FFXI remembers what mode you left off in. By pressing CTRL+L (linkshell), CTRL+R (reply), or CTRL+P (party), FFXI will recall and have you continue typing in that mode. This behavior is programmed into the IME, so you have to deal with it.

That's correct, but... there's something wrong with FFXI or the IME that might cause FFXI to automaticly set hiragana or katakana as the default input mode regaurdless of the last used mode. Alt+~ can still change it back for the current message, but once you finish the message and start a new one, it goes right back to JP input default. Cliff's already acknowledged this problem I think, but it might be an FFXI problem? ;;

Not trying to report the problem again, just pointing out there is an exception to the IME's expected behaviour. ><
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 09:56 AM

I could be wrong but I don't think it's a plugin problem. It's the same thing when I run the game with jpn pol. The only way I can make it stay in english mode is by pressing shift+capslock to toggle, not alt+~. Try it.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:44 PM

ciphered said:

That's correct, but... there's something wrong with FFXI or the IME that might cause FFXI to automaticly set hiragana or katakana as the default input mode regaurdless of the last used mode. Alt+~ can still change it back for the current message, but once you finish the message and start a new one, it goes right back to JP input default. Cliff's already acknowledged this problem I think, but it might be an FFXI problem? ;;

Not trying to report the problem again, just pointing out there is an exception to the IME's expected behaviour. ><

Yeah, I've actually noticed that too in the past couple days. It's a little bit inconsistant as well, sometimes it stays in the same mode and sometimes it doesn't. Especially while editting macros.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 08:24 PM

Perhaps a small workaround in practice,

I found that using the _right_ CTRL key instead of ALT when hitting ~ to change input modes seems to be immune to getting stuck on a default mode. I've been using this key to reverse the default mode when it gets stuck for hours now, and it hasnt failed yet. I may just start using that to change modes entirely, and ignore the use of ALT keys.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 02:58 AM

no offence to the ppl who made this IME plug in or anything but


OMFG THIS IS STARTING TO REALLY PISS THE FUCK OUT OF ME SO BADLY OMFG, i press ALT+~ and CTR+~ and everything fucking else but NOTHING changes mods omfg, can somone please tell me if its just a bug or the plugin just doesnt read me pressing the bottens or somthing?!?!?!, and also my f7 dont seem to be working....
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 05:22 PM

The only drawback that I can see when switching non-unicode programs to use Japanese as the default language is that the font of some programs gets so, uhh, mutilated.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 05:47 PM

Snowknight26 said:

The only drawback that I can see when switching non-unicode programs to use Japanese as the default language is that the font of some programs gets so, uhh, mutilated.

Yeah, each side (system locale vs. AppLocale app) has it's drawbacks until Cliff and Company gets 3.3 and a new version of the IME plugin out.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 06:05 PM

The neat thing about the stuff i'm writing for IME to simulate AppLocale is that SE could take that code too and drop it into FFXI itself and make it so the JP version of the game wouldn't require it either. It even holds the codepage and stuff just incase it's not installed on your system... only thing it doesn't do is install IME.

Now, would they? Probably not :P .

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 04:26 PM

I know it was said, but just to accentuate the point, the IME has an annoying little habbit of getting stuck in Japanese as the default sometimes, no matter what language you finished typing in last time.

What has solved my problem every time, is holding the right ctrl key and pressing ~ to switch back to English, then it will stick.
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Posted 22 October 2005 - 09:37 PM

Not sure if all of you know, but typing "kigou" or ”きごう” in ffxi, or anywhere else for that matter, with conversion on, and hitting space after, will bring up like a special character selection.

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Now outside of ffxi, typing kigou and pressing space, then the down arrow, will bring up a list of characters you can insert. It is a BIG list, maybe 100-200 or more. But inside of ffxi, pressing space then down will be basically like hitting enter, and will turn the text from yellow to white, meaning that is your conversion selection I guess.

My question is, is there a way to enable this in ffxi? or does this even work with the JP version? It is just very hard trying to find stuff with it, especially if I go past the one I want, I gotta start over :(
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:26 AM

pathead said:

Not sure if all of you know, but typing "kigou" or ”きごう” in ffxi, or anywhere else for that matter, with conversion on, and hitting space after, will bring up like a special character selection.

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Now outside of ffxi, typing kigou and pressing space, then the down arrow, will bring up a list of characters you can insert. It is a BIG list, maybe 100-200 or more. But inside of ffxi, pressing space then down will be basically like hitting enter, and will turn the text from yellow to white, meaning that is your conversion selection I guess.

My question is, is there a way to enable this in ffxi? or does this even work with the JP version? It is just very hard trying to find stuff with it, especially if I go past the one I want, I gotta start over :(

If you're not getting the pop-up list then it has to do with your Windows settings. There's some notes in the topic above as to what prevents the menu from appearing in FFXI.

You can also hit Shift+Space to go back a selection.
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Posted 01 November 2005 - 03:12 AM

great write up... but I had a couple questions.

my friend and I are having the same issue, where we have the regional settings and every set up and installed "properly" or so we think.

However when it comes down to acctaully inputing the characters into the FFXI Chat, they only come up as ???

for example, I type ~ Load IME and the plug in will load... I hit shift-alt and switch to JP, then hit Alt-~. I can see the edit box come up on the text prompt and it shows ON and the hiragana mode in the second box, but typing it comes out only as ???....

perhaps the configuration is wrong? or the data isn't being input properly? I know it's probably user error but any advice would be great :)
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great write up... but I had a couple questions.

my friend and I are having the same issue, where we have the regional settings and every set up and installed "properly" or so we think.

However when it comes down to acctaully inputing the characters into the FFXI Chat, they only come up as ???

for example, I type ~ Load IME and the plug in will load... I hit shift-alt and switch to JP, then hit Alt-~. I can see the edit box come up on the text prompt and it shows ON and the hiragana mode in the second box, but typing it comes out only as ???....

perhaps the configuration is wrong? or the data isn't being input properly? I know it's probably user error but any advice would be great :)


Make sure you set it to Japanese under the Advanced tab in language options and the the regional one. That's what I did at first too and I had the same problem.

Of course I still have my own prob i'm posting about now, hopefully you and your friend won't suffer the same fate. ^^;

Basically, as far as I know, I have everything set up right, but the IME refuses to work like it should in FFXI (It works for the text in just about every other program i've tried though, like notepad and stuff). Rather than try to explain, i'll post some screencaps.

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As you can see in this one, I have the language bar set properly (I think), the IME is on and FFXI and in hiragana mode. From what I understand, I should be typing out Japanese characters instead of english ones like i'm able to in notepad using these exact settings, but for some reason it's not the case. Just in case that's -not- how it's supposedto be, however...

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For something relatively simple like 'watashi' (It doesn't work with particles either) the only candidates I get by pressing space are as such, all english with varying degrees of capitalization. I can't really make any sense of it. Now for the real ringer

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If I type 'ha' and press space, I get the same as I mentioned above. However, there are two additional candidates that appear at the bottom in hiragana and katakana, which i've put in the bar there for all to see. It's not any phrase i've learned yet, it may just be gibberish, but i'll leave that to someone who knows more about the language. So far ha is the only particle that yields this result. It really only adds to the confusion of the entire situation.

Needless to say, any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Posted 02 November 2005 - 02:55 AM

I've been unable to replicate any of the behavior you two are experiencing. Why it would be entering everything into full-width alphanumeric by default and not give you any kana candidates in the list.

Alas, the only suggestion I have is to try to reinstall the language files if you can. I couldn't find any settings for the IME that would cause this either (and I've worked with WingGT1 trying to fix this). :/
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Posted 02 November 2005 - 09:19 AM

i started playing around with the properties and seeing what that would affect.

When "Input Settings >> Input Method" is set to "romanji input", FFXI doesn't recognize the computer trying to convert these inputs to Hiragana. instead what shows up is questions marks. the "Default Input Mode" is set to "Hiragana", on this same menu.

However, I was able to duplicate WingGT1's error, by changing the Input Method to Kana Input.

What is displayed then is the word, in english lettering. However when i hit the space bar, rather than a select menu poping up, it simply changes the apperence that the word is in.

So like the second screen shot without the menu. It just converts it to various forms of capitalization. I think there must be some setting that we are missing in the Properties for Microsoft IME Standard Menu.

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 07:16 PM

weeco said:

When "Input Settings >> Input Method" is set to "romanji input", FFXI doesn't recognize the computer trying to convert these inputs to Hiragana. instead what shows up is questions marks. the "Default Input Mode" is set to "Hiragana", on this same menu.

This happens when FFXI's not in the Japanese locale. Either set your default codepage for non-Unicode programs to Japanese or use AppLocale on top of FFXI.

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However, I was able to duplicate WingGT1's error, by changing the Input Method to Kana Input.

Yes, after repeated review of his settings, we finally noticed this was the case. :D

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What is displayed then is the word, in english lettering. However when i hit the space bar, rather than a select menu poping up, it simply changes the apperence that the word is in.

So like the second screen shot without the menu. It just converts it to various forms of capitalization. I think there must be some setting that we are missing in the Properties for Microsoft IME Standard Menu.

Turn "Extend support of advanced text services to all programs" off.
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Posted 02 November 2005 - 07:48 PM

Taking some time to snap some of the dialog windows. Should have the guide updated sometime within the next couple of days.
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Posted 04 November 2005 - 09:28 PM

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This happens when FFXI's not in the Japanese locale. Either set your default codepage for non-Unicode programs to Japanese or use AppLocale on top of FFXI.


I have the same issue where I am getting '?'s instead of Hiragana characters.. AppLocale, as great as it is, is not ideal for me because I multiwindow a lot. If you could explain to someone like me how to Set the Default Codepage for non-Unicode programs that would help me out a lot D: as computers aren't my Forte.
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