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    #1 Ramoth

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      Posted 18 August 2013 - 01:54 PM

      I am sure this is unique to Windows 8 but thought I might ask if anybody knows a solution.

      It only happens when I switch characters and therefore not a big issue.

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      #2 Tronian

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        Posted 19 August 2013 - 01:05 AM

        This is not unique to WIndows 8, I get this on Windows 7 64bit as well when i try to mule. sometimes it happens, sometime it does not.



        #3 Ramoth

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          Posted 19 August 2013 - 03:46 AM

          I wonder if maybe it's the 64 bit Architecture then, my 8 is 64 bit.



          #4 Iryoku

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            Posted 19 August 2013 - 02:02 PM

            Everyone on the dev team runs on a 64-bit OS. If that were the case we would have likely found it already.



            #5 JoshK6656

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              Posted 19 August 2013 - 07:10 PM

              This is an issue with Spellcast. I sometimes get it too while changing to a mule. Everytime I've tried to attach a debugger it hasn't happened. 



              #6 Ramoth

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                Posted 19 August 2013 - 10:05 PM

                This is an issue with Spellcast. I sometimes get it too while changing to a mule. Everytime I've tried to attach a debugger it hasn't happened. 

                 

                Do you have a small app/script I can also run and see if I can track this?



                #7 Arcon

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                Posted 20 August 2013 - 04:52 AM

                Do you have a small app/script I can also run and see if I can track this?

                 

                How do you want to track it, or what exactly would you wanna track? Where it originates from? This has been a known SpellCast error for years, and if there was a way to narrow it down within SpellCast, we would have already fixed it.

                 

                About the best you can do is attach a debugger with it and make a crash dump, although I'm not sure how this would qualify for it. Check here to see how to make crash dumps.



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                  Posted 20 August 2013 - 04:06 PM

                  This happened to me last night, but I'm running the 4.1 dev preview. Are you guys running it on 4.0?



                  #9 Ramoth

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                    Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:03 PM

                    This happened to me last night, but I'm running the 4.1 dev preview. Are you guys running it on 4.0?

                    Yes mine is 4



                    #10 Cptbirdseye

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                      Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:13 AM

                      So, since I'm getting crashes when changing characters and when zoning it sounds like I'm going to have to disable both infobar and spellcast?  I could manage without infobar but spellcast is my most important plugin.  I'm curious to how a dll is causing crashes.

                       

                      Edit: Nope, isn't just infobar.  I managed to successfully cause FFXI to crash after lots of logging in/out of characters without infobar.  It is likely one of the most common causes, but seems there's another reason that's less likely but will still do it.



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                      Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:23 PM

                      Yeah, that's not an InfoBar error. The log crashing has been around for a while, but it's also hard to pin point, because it only seems to affect certain people or under certain conditions. I cannot reproduce it at all, for example. Once we find a way, we'll try to debug it, but it seems that either multiple plugins or Hook is causing those crashes. For now you can use scripts to unload/reload plugins (I think plugin_manager can do that as well, but I'm not sure).



                      #12 Jepenepe

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                        Posted 28 August 2013 - 12:30 PM

                        I will just //unload spellcast when I mule and then reload it when I get back on main. Simple solution if you can remember to do so. :P



                        #13 Arcon

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                        Posted 28 August 2013 - 12:37 PM

                        I will just //unload spellcast when I mule and then reload it when I get back on main. Simple solution if you can remember to do so. :P

                         

                        It doesn't always help, SpellCast is not the sole culprit in this.



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                        Posted 28 August 2013 - 01:40 PM

                        You can add a command to unload Spellcast to your autoexec file so it will never be a case of remembering to unload but as Arcon said it's not always Spellcast that causes the crashes, it will cut down on the crashes tho.

                         

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                            <register silent="true" event="login_charname">load Spellcast</register>
                            <register silent="true" event="logout_charname">unload Spellcast</register>
                         


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                          Posted 18 September 2013 - 01:19 AM

                          Yep, can say that unloading spellcast before logging out does not stop the crashes.



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                            Posted 21 September 2013 - 06:27 PM

                            please configure and use plugin_manager. It will stop this. 



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                            Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:26 PM

                            please configure and use plugin_manager. It will stop this. 

                            Can you be more specific? Have plugin_manager unload just Spellcast or use it to unload all plugins/addons? I use plugin_manager to load certain plugins for certain characters since I dualbox still get crashes when changing characters.



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                              Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:56 AM

                              I've been having this problem on both my laptop and my PC, I can swap characters twice with no problems but on the 3rd swap it's a guaranteed crash.

                              The problem is Blinkmenot and if I remember to unload it then everything is fine and I can swap as many times as I like with no crashes.



                              #19 d3vious

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                              Posted 01 October 2013 - 05:28 PM

                              I've been having this problem on both my laptop and my PC, I can swap characters twice with no problems but on the 3rd swap it's a guaranteed crash.

                              The problem is Blinkmenot and if I remember to unload it then everything is fine and I can swap as many times as I like with no crashes.

                              You can add BlinkMeNot to your plugin_manager global section to unload anytime you log out on a character or you can add this to your AutoExec file:

                               

                                  <register silent="true" event="login_charname">load BlinkMeNot</register>
                                  <register silent="true" event="logout_charname">unload BlinkMeNot</register>
                               





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